你害怕 因为你认为他会伤害你 Were you afraid... because you thought that he might kill you?
祸根 前情回顾
我们反对保释 We oppose bail.
一千万债券 两百万现金 Ten-million bond and two-million cash.
不管我犯了什么错 Whatever my faults, my transgressions,
我对你的爱 my love for you...
你有个女儿 You have a daughter.
你妻子有心理问题吗 Is your wife being treated for a psychological disorder?
小心点 弗雷泽医生 Be very careful, Dr. Fraser.
你自己需要聘请律师 You need to hire your own attorney.
警方会希望你合作 The police will wanna secure your cooperation.
我觉得你女儿有所隐瞒 I get a feeling your daughter is hiding something.
离现场一个街区远的地方有一个摄像头 There was an active camera a block away from the scene.
这是什么 What is this?
唯一有关联的人 在那个地区 在那个时候 The only people of relevance in the area, around the time,
就是你和你丈夫 are you and your husband.
你提过海莉·菲茨杰拉德 You mentioned Haley Fitzgerald.
人们雇我来颠倒黑白 People hire me to create muck.
这就是我能给你和你丈夫的 That's what I can give you and your husband.
颠倒黑白 Muck.
祸根 第一季 第四集
我当时在散步 I was on one of my walks.
一次散步 One of your walks.
对 Yes.
一次散步 我就是这样的 One of my walks. That's what I do.
我让自己放空的办法就是散步 That's how I ground myself. I walk.
有这么难理解吗 Is that really so difficult to comprehend?
你放空自己时 恰好就在 That you happened to ground yourself by walking within footsteps
你丈夫被打死的情人的尸体不远处散步 of your husband's bludgeoned-to-death lover.
嗯 我还挺惊讶的 Yeah, it bumps me.
我不是说这不行 I'm not saying it's bad.
也许我可以说是你杀了她 是你吗 Perhaps I could suggest that you killed her? Did you?
你在开玩笑吗 Are you making a joke?
我不开玩笑 我挺无趣的 I don't make jokes. I'm not funny.
你很幸运 乔纳森就差点 Luckily for you, not Jonathan...
警方有更多你放空自己时散步的照片 the police have more images of you grounding yourself,
在死亡时间之后 walking, after the time of death.
你不再是他们的嫌疑人了 You're no longer on their radar as a suspect.
但他们还是觉得你有所隐瞒 But they still think you're withholding.
为什么 Why?
因为有钱有势的人 Because it's what rich,
在受到威胁时会这么做 entitled people do when threatened.
他们隐瞒丑恶的真相 They conceal the ugly truths,
为了保护自己 to protect themselves,
保护家庭完整 社会地位 their family units, their places in society.
他们的公众形象 Their public image.
他们觉得自己能逃脱惩罚 因为他们有钱 And they think they can get away with it, because they're rich.
-我没有隐瞒 -不管你是否有 - I'm not withholding. - Whether you are or not--
看着我 Eyes here, please.
别跟我来这套 不许 Don't do it with me. Ever.
还有别的吗 Anything else?
除了你的放空之旅 Apart from your grounding walkabout.
还有什么秘密吗 Any more secrets?
没有 No.
再跟我说说埃琳娜的丈夫 Tell me more about Elena's husband.
你说觉得他情绪很不稳定 You said that he struck you as volatile.
很严重 Very.
-多严重 -就是很严重 - How very? - Just... very.
这不是很具体 That's not terribly specific.
我们能再说详细点吗 Are we talking about something more than that?
来吧 Come on.
考验下训练有素的临床心理学家吧 Give it the old trained clinical psychologist try.
为什么要考验我 Why are you testing me?
因为这个案子可能会落到你头上 Because this case may come down to you.
在我让你出庭作证之前 And before I put you on the stand,
我得先确认一遍 I have to kick the tires.
上证人席 On the stand?
不 No.
我不会上庭的 I'm not going on the stand.
你去见海莉了 You see Haley?
我不喜欢她 I don't like her.
那又怎么样 So what?
你付钱又不是跟她交朋友的 格蕾丝 You're not paying her to be your friend, Grace.
律师就像汽车修理工 Lawyers are like car mechanics.
你付钱让他们帮你解决问题 You pay them to fix your problems.
如果我想锻炼对病人的态度 找你就对了 For bedside manner, I always have you.
现在我成敌人了 Oh, so now I'm the enemy.
不 我没这么说 No, I didn't say that.
-需要点什么吗 小姐 -不用了 谢谢伊尔玛 - Can I get something for you, miss? - Oh, no, thank you, Irma.
不用了 我不饿 I'm fine. I'm not hungry.
你什么意思 So what are you saying?
我只是想从我亲爱的父亲那 I just need a little unconditional support
寻求一点无条件的支持 能这样就 from my loving father right now. That would be...
就太好了 That would be nice.
非常感谢你这么做 Well, thank you so much for doing this.
我是为了富兰克林 I'm doing it for Franklin.
你脸上的淤青是怎么来的 How'd you get that bruise on your face?
我被这里的 I was attacked by a...
一个朋友打了 a... one of my friends here.
然后你咬了他 And you bit him.
是的 I did, yes.
有些人想搞事 Somewhere amidst the pile-on,
半个监狱的人都参与了 when half the prison joined in the fun.
完全是自卫 Self-defense, you know.
别咬人了 Don't bite anybody else.
我得把你弄出来 Okay, I need to get you out.
我最好先把你 I can better start shaping the narrative
塑造成一个自由的人 with you as a quasi-free man.
保释金是两百万 我猜你没有 The bail is two million. I'm guessing you don't have that.
-我没有 -家人呢 - I don't. No. - What about family?
父母 兄弟姐妹 最爱的叔叔 Parents? Siblings? Favorite uncle?
我和家人挺疏远的 Well, I, I'm estranged from my family.
为什么呢 Why is that?
重要吗 Is it important?
重要 It is.
尤其是你似乎和所有人都挺疏远的 Especially since you seem to be estranged from everybody.
自从我去上大学后 Well, I haven't really spoken to my family
我就没跟家人说过话 since I left for college.
他们没有办法 They would lack the means,
也没意愿来帮我保释 as well as the inclination, to help with bail.
还有其他埃琳娜那种人吗 Are there any more Elenas out there?
就是在你婚内 Other women you've been involved with
和你有关系的女人 during the course of your marriage.
我会查出来的 I will find out.
你最好现在就告诉我 And you might as well tell me now.
还有其他人吗 Were there any others?
有一个 There was one.
几年前就那么一回 Just a one-off years ago.
我一个病人去世了 当时我 I'd lost a patient, and I was, uh,
一团糟 我当时心烦意乱 然后 you know, in a mess. I was distraught, and...
你犯了个错误 And you had a lapse.
是啊 Yeah.
还有多少人 And how many others?
没了 我说了 就一个 No, like I said, just the one.
你到底能不能为我辩护 海莉 Are you gonna be able to defend me, Haley, or not?
如果没意外的话 我会尽力为你辩护 I'll be able to defend you best if I'm not surprised.
除了埃琳娜 没有别人了 Well, there was no one else, apart from Elena.
埃琳娜 还有你心烦意乱时的那位 Elena, and the one where you were distraught.
可怜的婊砸 The sad fuck.
这很好笑吗 Is that supposed to be funny?
我不搞笑 I'm not funny.
我需要她的名字 I'll need her name.
-谢谢你能来 -客气了 - Thank you for coming. - My pleasure.
我有点喜欢受虐 I'm kind of a glutton for punishment.
这感觉 This thing...
简直是千载难逢的考验 It's like the trial of a lifetime.
让我有机会重温丢了官司... So the opportunity for me to relive losing it...
-我很抱歉 -我开玩笑的 - I'm sorry. Um... - I'm, I'm kidding.
如果是我爱的人 You know, if it was somebody I loved
他命悬一线的话 我... whose ass was on the line, I'd--
我也想找海莉·菲茨杰拉德而不是我 I'd be wanting Haley Fitzgerald instead of me, too.
那 So...
你觉得他可能是无辜的吗 Do you think that he might be innocent?
乔纳森 Jonathan.
这就是你想问我的吗 That's what you wanted to ask me?
客观起见 还是有必要说一说的 我就是 There's something to be said for objectivity, so I just...
我的直觉是没错 My gut instinct is "yes."
他可能是无辜的 He could be innocent.
大脑和胆量是有联系的 You know, brain's connected to the gut.
他们现在有科学证据了 They got scientific evidence of that now.
-你当然知道 你是个心理医生 -是啊 - You know that, of course, you being a shrink and all. - Yeah.
我仍然认为他是个混蛋 I still think he's a dick.
但他不会杀人 Just not one who'd commit murder.
海莉觉得保释他出来很重要 Haley feels that it's important that he gets out on a bail.
她觉得这会让陪审团 She feels it would present him to a potential jury pool
对他的印象更好些 in a more favorable light,
他将能够以更有意义的方式 and he'll be able to contribute to his defense
为自己的辩护做出贡献 in a more meaningful way.
我想你亲爱的父亲 I assume this is when your loving father
该给他无条件的支持了 gives his unconditional support a test drive?
你们打算像一家人一样重新生活在一起吗 Are you all planning to live together like a family again?
-不可能 -好吧 - No. No. - Okay.
乔纳森会住在公寓里 而... Jonathan will live in the apartment, and, and--
如果可以的话 亨利和我会继续和你住在一起 Henry and I will continue to live with you, if that's okay.
-马克 -先生 - Mark. - Sir.
你好 先生 Good day, sir.
谢谢 罗伯特 Thank you, Robert.
快走 Move it!
走吧 Let's go!
快走 走吧 Move it! Let's go!
我无法想象你会怎么看我 Well, I can't imagine what you must think of me.
我当然理解 I cer-- I certainly understand
你为什么不愿意 why you would not feel comfortable
给我交保释金 putting up my bail.
-但是 -别说了 - But, uh-- - Stop.
我不是来听你解释的 I'm not here for your understanding.
我是来看你的 I'm here to look at you.
我来是想让你知道 I'm here to make sure that you understand me.
我认为你有罪 I think you're guilty.
我相信是你杀了那个女人 I believe you killed that woman.
格蕾丝 觉得有可能不是你杀的 Grace... makes room for the possibility that you did not.
也许是因为她很少向我求助 And perhaps because she so rarely asks for my help,
我发现自己 I find myself...
无法拒绝 ill-equipped to refuse it.
但如果你敢逃跑 But should you run,
如果你再做任何伤害我女儿以及 should you do anything to further harm my daughter,
我的孙子的事 my grandson,
我会找到你 I will track you down.
我会亲手宰了你 And I will kill you, myself.
谢谢 Thank you.
我会好好对你女儿的 I'll make good with your daughter.
还有亨利 With Henry.
我也会补偿你的 And I will make good with you.
我完事了 I'm done here.
起来 走吧 Get up. Let's go.
请让一让 Please make a path.
我想说一句 我想说 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this,
如果各位能别打扰我们 我将无比感激 and then I, I would be g-grateful if you would leave us alone.
我很高兴能保释出来 除此之外 I'm obviously very happy to be out, and beyond that,
我很期待在法庭上为自己正名 I look forward to clearing my name in court,
证明我是无辜的 and proving that I'm innocent of this crime.
非常感谢各位 不再回答任何问题 Thank you very much. There will be no more questions.
谢谢 休 Thanks, Hugh.
抱歉 Sorry.
我很抱歉 I'm, I'm sorry.
你不会有麻烦的 亨利 You're not in trouble, Henry.
那为什么让我来这 Then why am I here?
我只想知道你们说了什么 I would just like to know what was said.
说了什么 What was said?
我只想知道你和米格尔·阿尔维斯 I would just like to know what was said
都说了些什么 between you and Miguel Alves.
说了你好 "Hi," was said.
我说的 By me.
米格尔什么都没说 Miguel didn't say anything.
你就说了你好 You just said "hi"?
在我说抱歉之后 Well, after I said "sorry."
你跟米格尔道歉了 You said "sorry" to Miguel.
-对 -你为什么道歉 - Yes. - And what were you sorry for?
我不小心撞到了他 I bumped into him by accident.
所以我说抱歉 So I said "sorry."
5C价值观之一 品格 勇气 良知 仁慈和礼貌 It's one of five Cs, Character, courage, conscience, charity, and courtesy.
我出于礼貌说了句抱歉 I said "sorry" out of courtesy.
谢谢你 Thank you.
我已经后悔了 I already regret it.
我 我 I'm, I'm, I'm,
我可不是惦着 I'm not going to play the role
让你们重归于好的 of brokering you back together again, you know.
我没有 I'm not.
你一直都不喜欢他 You never liked him.
嗯 No.
我就没喜欢过他 No, I never did.
我第一眼看到乔纳森 Jonathan upset me in a profound way
就不喜欢他 the minute I first set eyes on him.
我问过你为什么喜欢他 I did ask you what it was you loved about him.
我问过你 他是不是非常适合你 I asked you whether he seemed so perfect for you
因为你跟他解释过 because you had explained to him
"非常适合你"是什么意思 exactly what "perfect for you" meant.
他只是在按照你的标准行事 And he was just giving back what you wanted.
我知道你很生气 I know you're angry.
我很生气 我很生自己的气 格蕾丝 I'm furious. I'm furious with myself, Grace.
因为我没反对 For not putting up a fight.
天啊 God.
他们想把亨利赶出学校 They wanna kick Henry out of school.
什么 What?
嗯 Yeah.
是的 Yeah.
他们想让他在家学习 直到这一切结束 They want him to be homeschooled until all of this is over.
打扰了 Excuse me.
警察又来了 The police are back.
我们不想反复麻烦你 We hate to be such a nuisance.
但你们就是这样 But you continue to be.
-我们不是来给你建议的 医生 -那就别给 - Far be it from us to give you advice, Doctor, but-- - Then don't.
但你是否允许你丈夫 But are we to understand you've allowed your husband
回你家呢 back into your home?
我的私生活与你无关 My personal life is none of your business.
你怎么会这么想 Why would you think that?
你的私生活 你丈夫的私生活 Your personal life, your husband's personal life,
是我们近期首要关注的 is our primary business of late.
你们想怎样 What do you want?
-你能坐一下吗 -不 我想站着 - Can you, can you sit for a second? - No. I would prefer to stand.
你对埃琳娜·阿尔维斯有多了解 How well did you know Elena Alves?
-怎么又绕回去了 -她给你打电话了 - Are we back to that? - She called you.
很多次 就在她死前几天 Many times, in the days before her death.
她手机上有你的手机号码 It's right there on her phone. Your cell number.
没什么想说的吗 Nothing to say?
我从没和埃琳娜·阿尔维斯说过话 也没通过电话 I never, ever spoke to Elena Alves. Not on my cell phone.
其他电话也没有 Not on any other phone.
这倒是真的 Yeah, that's true.
她的手机显示那些电话都没人接 Her phone shows that those calls were never answered.
因为你没接电话 Because you never picked up.
你干吗这么耍我 Why are you fucking with me?
-你知道是她吗 -不 - Did you know it was her? - No.
因为我不认的号码 我就不会接 Because I don't pick up a number when I don't recognize it.
我以为是电话推销员 我就 I assume that it's a telemarketer. I'd--
好了 好的 All right. Fine.
如果你们觉得是我杀了她 没问题 If you think maybe I was the one that killed her, great.
一定要找出证据 Be sure to testify to that.
我们只是想掌握所有线索 We're just trying to get all the information.
包括但不限于 Including, but not limited to,
-你和死者的关系 -我本人 - your relationship with the victim. - I had...
和她没有关系 no relationship with her.
除了我和她在同一个委员会 Other than I was on a committee with her.
-还有我路过 -晚上好 小姐 - And I walked-- - Evening, miss.
晚上好 艾伦 Good evening, Alan.
我无意中 And I unwittingly
她公寓附近散步 walked within a block of her apartment
就在她被杀的那晚 the night that she was killed.
你知道她是个艺术家吧 You know she was an artist, right?
雕刻家 画家 A sculptor. Painter.
新闻上说了 It was on the news.
-你以前并不知道 -所以你从没 - You never knew it before. - So you never, uh...
给她当过模特 ...posed for her?
当然没有 什么鬼 Oh, fuck you. What?
我们在她地下室的仓库里发现了些东西 We found something in her basement storage.
我不想看 I don't--
这是幅油画 It's an oil portrait.
我觉得她画你还 I would say she captured you...
挺像的 rather well.
你不觉得吗 Don't you think?
你知道吗 Did you know?
当然不知道 我不知道 No, no. No, I had no idea.
你是说肖像吗 You mean, like a portrait?
-对 一幅肖像 -天呐 - Yes! A portrait. - Christ.
而且非常细节了 And exceptionally detailed.
我知道她鬼迷心窍了 但是 Well, I knew she was obsessed, but, uh...
警察怎么看 What are the police making of it?
我也不知道 I don't know.
或者他们不肯说 他们只是 Or they're not saying. They're just...
问了一堆问题 而我没有答案 asking more questions and I don't have the answers.
我们会挺过去的 We'll get through this.
我们会渡过难关的 We'll get through this somehow.
-乔纳森 住手 -我们会的 会的 - Jonathan, stop. - We will. We will. We will.
我们不是一伙的 We're not in this together.
我们不是 We're not.
你被指控犯罪 You stand accused of a crime
也许是你干的 也许不是 that maybe you did, maybe you didn't do.
我要撑起的角色 是妻子的角色 And I'm gonna play the role. The assigned role of the wife.
仅此而已 And that's it.
那我就祈祷自己能回到你身边 Well, then, I'll just pray that I... make my way back to you.
你和我之间所拥有的 You know, what we had, you and I, was...
太多了 无法一笔勾销 It's too big to undo just like that.
-我不能 -但你一笔勾销了 不是吗 - I didn't-- - But you did. You managed to undo it, didn't you?
不管我对你有什么感觉 Whatever I feel for you,
都没关系 因为我的精神比内心更强大 it doesn't matter, because my mind is stronger than my heart.
你了解我的 You know that about me.
虽然你也许不是杀人犯 但你 And while you may not be a murderer, you're...
你不是我丈夫 You're not my husband.
你永远不再是我丈夫了 You'll never be my husband.
别这样嘛 过来 Come on. Come here.
过来 别这样嘛 来吧 Come here. Come on. Come on.
是我 是我 是我 It's me. It's me. It's me.
-是我 是我 -你为什么 - It's me. It's me. - Why would you--
我做不到 I can't.
-是我 - 闭嘴 别说了 - It's me. -Stop it. Please stop.
别说了 不要说了 Stop. Just stop it. Stop it now.
不 不 No. No.
不 No.
好了 Come on.
你们还记得吧 保释金 The bail, you will recall,
是一千万债券 两百万现金 was set at ten million bond, two million cash,
弗雷泽医生可能负担得起 a number Dr. Fraser has presumably met.
这是白人特权 It is white privilege.
如果凶手是那位丈夫 You think that if it was the husband,
或者其他黑人 你觉得他会被保释吗 or any black man, that he would have been granted bail?
这是一起恶性谋杀 This was a vicious murder.
那女人的头几乎都稀烂了 The woman's head was nearly liquefied.
他对社会没有威胁吗 He's not a threat to society?
太卑鄙了 It's obscene.
富兰克林 Franklin.
你好 亲爱的 Hi, dear.
过来打个招呼 Come say hello.
-你好吗 -你先过去 - Hello. How are you? - You run off.
-很好 -告诉他们 我很抱歉 - Good. - Tell them I'm sorry.
-告诉海蒂小姐是我的错 -再见 - Tell Miss Hatsy it's my fault. - Bye.
我跟格蕾丝说过无数次了 有什么事就来找我 I've told Grace a thousand times, but if there's anything I can do.
你是个非常好的姑娘 我和她都很清楚 You're a dear, dear girl and she knows it. So do I.
她怎么样了 How is she?
她太隐忍了 她到底怎么样了 Just... She's always so... stoic. How is she, really?
说实话吗 Really?
我也不知道 我真的不怎么了解她 I don't know. I don't know whether I ever knew.
格蕾丝还是那样 She's just Grace being Grace.
我的约会对象出现了 My date has just appeared.
玩得开心 You have fun.
正有此意 Oh, I intend to.
他没做错什么 He didn't do anything wrong.
那为什么让他在家自学 Why homeschool him, then?
我们觉得这样对大家都好 Well, we just feel it would be in the best interest of everyone,
-如果亨利这段时间 -为什么 - if Henry, for the time being-- - Why?
马上就要开庭了 With the trial approaching,
这样大家不会分心嘛 the distraction serves no one.
你告诉我女儿里尔顿会照顾亨利的 You told my daughter that Reardon would be there for Henry.
-社区坚决支持 -是的 但是 - That the community was... steadfast. - I did, but--
亨利的生活支离破碎 Henry's life has been ripped apart.
如果一个要价过高 自以为是的 If ever an overpriced, self-important,
垃圾学校需要挺身而出 full-of-shit school needed to step up--
这是董事会的决定 This is coming from the board.
他们不想让里尔登 They feel we need to create distance
扯上丑陋的事情 between Reardon and all the ugliness.
我无法满足你孙子的需求 I cannot exalt your grandson's needs
学校会损失一大笔钱的 at the expense of the school's writ large.
我可以 Well, I can.
我给这所学校捐了很多钱 康纳弗先生 I've given a lot of money to this school, Mr. Connaver.
我一直觉得这是我的荣幸 And I've always considered it a privilege to be able to do so.
但是别搞错了 But make no mistake.
我是个混蛋[口交] I am a cocksucker.
我不是在贬低同性恋 And I don't mean that in the sense of gay belittlement,
虽然目前这个词变成了一个梗 as it's currently come to be interpreted.
不 No.
我是个复古的混蛋 I'm an old-fashioned cocksucker.
传统的那种 The more traditional kind.
只要敢伤害我和我的亲人 我就让他们好看 The kind who fucks over anyone who hurts me, or a loved one.
虽然你嘴上说丑陋 康纳弗先生 You speak of ugliness, Mr. Connaver.
但你还没见过真正的丑陋 You have not yet met ugliness.
拜托 Please.
亲爱的 Hey, honey.
-没事的 -你没事吧 - It's all right. - Are you okay?
没事 我保证 Fine. I promise.
-发生了什么事 -我也不知道 - Wh-what happened? - I don't know.
我当时在公园散步 I was... I was walking in the park,
有点头晕 然后 and I got lightheaded and then...
就晕过去了 Think I just went numb.
乔纳森 Jonathan.
你没事吧 Are you okay?
我没事 可能只是恐慌发作 I'm fine. It was probably just a bit of a panic attack,
压力有点大吧 and then s-- stress.
嗯 Yeah.
小子 Hey, buddy.
-你好吗 没事吧 -嗯 - How you doing? You alright? - Yeah.
医生怎么说 So what are the doctors saying?
他们说是压力太大引起的 They're just saying that it was stress-induced,
我马上就能出院了 所以 and that I'm gonna be discharged, so--
-好 睁眼 -乔纳森 别这样 - All right. So, eyes open. - Jonathan... please don't.
睁眼 请睁眼 拜托 Eyes open. Eyes open, please. Please.
乔纳森 别这样 别这样 Jonathan, come on. Please don't do this.
睁开 睁开 请睁开 And open, open, open. Open, please.
你能追踪我的手指吗 Can you track my finger?
摸我的手指 And touch my finger.
-不是吧 -拜托 来吧 - Oh, please. Really? - Come on. Do it.
嗯 你的鼻子 Yeah. And now your nose.
手指 And, uh, finger.
鼻子 应该没事 And now nose. I think you're okay.
应该没事 I think you're okay.
我什么时候能出院 Yeah. When can I get out?
天啊 怎么回事 Jesus. So what was it?
我也不知道 他们说 I don't know. They say, uh,
他们说只是焦虑发作 they say it was just an anxiety attack.
焦虑 Anxiety.
你为什么会焦虑 Why on Earth would you have anxiety?
你出了什么事吗 Is something going on in your life?
你真幽默 You're funny.
不如你这周来我家过一夜 Why don't you come over to the house
我们可以来个 我也不知道 one night this week and we can have a,
喝点酒 睡一觉 就咱俩 I don't know, a boozy sleepover. Just you and me.
听起来很不错啊 Yeah, that sounds fun.
你没事吧 You okay?
你真的没事吗 You really okay?
我没事 我保证 I'm fine, I promise.
我很担心你 I'm thinking of you.
好 再见 Okay. Bye.
我能进来吗 May I come in?
当然 Yeah, sure.
小提琴是一种很棒的乐器 It's a wonderful instrument, the violin.
嗯 我很喜欢 Yeah. I, I like it.
里尔登的大多数孩子都想打鼓 Most kids at Reardon want to play the drums,
贝斯 吉他 还有 and the bass, and the guitar, and...
我喜欢小提琴 I, I like the violin.
因为它与众不同 'C-cause it's different.
我听说康纳弗的头上有你的脚印 I heard you left your footprint on Connaver's head.
他是个白痴 He's a putz.
你好 Well, hello.
我能进来吗 Can I come in, please?
拜托 Please.
谢谢 Thank you.
米格尔 Miguel.
你气色不错 小朋友 Oh, you look well, my friend. Yeah?
别烦他 Leave him alone.
他是我的病人 费尔南多 He's my patient, Fernando.
别碰他 Just get your hands off him.
你看起来很强壮 挺好的 You look strong. That's great.
你妈妈的事我很遗憾 I'm so sorry about your mom.
-别跟他说话 -我想让你知道 - Don't talk to him. - I want you to know,
你妈妈的事 米格尔 that what happened to your mom, Miguel...
-不是我干的 -好了 走吧 - I didn't do it. - All right. It's all right. Come on.
-回房间去 米格尔 -不 应该让他知道 - Go to your room, Miguel. - No, he should know that.
回房间去 回房间去 去吧 Go to your room. Go to your room. Come on.
-回你房间去 -他需要知道这点 你也一样 - Go to your room. - He needs to know that, and so do you.
我是越界了 There were lines I crossed.
但我没有杀埃琳娜 But I did not take Elena's life.
滚出我家 Get out of my house, now.
不是我干的 费尔南多 不是我干的 I didn't do it, Fernando. I didn't do it.
回房间去 米格尔 Go to your room, Miguel.
赶紧的 Now.
戴上耳机 好吗 Put your headphones on, okay?
戴上耳机 把音量调大 Put your headphones on and turn the volume up.
费尔南多 我 Fernando, I...
我也不想这么无理 I don't mean to seem insensitive,
但是绝望的时候 真的顾不上了 but desperation has a way of trumping good manners.
和埃琳娜在一起时 我也说不好 With Elena, there was something about her that seemed, uh,
总觉得她有点不对劲 I don't know. That was off.
-我得弄清楚 -这就是你的计划 - I need to find out exactly-- - This is your plan?
这就是你的傻逼计划 This is your fuckin' plan?
让她看起来不对劲 To make her seem off?
我明白你的悲痛 因为我能感受到 I know your grief, because I feel your grief.
我也希望凶手能被抓住 And I want whoever did this to be caught.
我不相信你 I don't believe you.
你得相信我 Well, you need to believe me.
至少相信下面这句话 And at a minimum, believe this.
离我妻子远点 You need to stay away from my wife.
就像你离我妻子那么远吗 Like you stayed away from mine?
她想吃东西了 She has to be fed.
你想喂她吗 Would you like to feed her?
你的女儿 你想喂她吗 Your daughter. Would you like to feed her?
好了 好了 好了 Here. Here, here, here.
好了 宝贝 Here, baby.
爸爸回来了 Daddy's home.
你见过她吗 You met her before?
见过 I have, yeah.
你抱过她吗 You've held her before?
嗯 Yeah.
小姑娘真好看 Such a beautiful little girl.
是啊 Yeah. That she is.
没错 That she is.
来 看看你 Come here. See you. Let's see you.
嗯 Yeah.
我很难去爱她 It's difficult to love her.
我真的努力了 I have tried really hard, and...
我会继续努力的 And I will keep trying.
但这很难 因为我知道 But it's difficult, knowing how...
我可以带她走 I could take her.
你愿意吗 Would you prefer that?
你他妈疯了吗 Are you out of your fucking mind?
我得警告他离格蕾丝远点 I had to warn him off Grace.
-我想着如果我恳求他 -他会怎样 - And I thought if I appealed to him-- - He'd what?
相信你 原谅你吗 Believe you? Forgive you?
你这是骚扰证人罪 You just committed witness tampering.
保释的条件是你远离 A condition of your bail is that you stay away--
-我没有试图说服他 -这不重要 - I did not try and influence him. - It doesn't matter.
你被指控残忍杀害了他的妻子 You actually thought that you might win over the man
你觉得他会帮你吗 whose wife you're accused of savagely killing.
你以为自己有多大的魅力啊 How much fucking charm do you think you have?
我不觉得有什么不好 真的 I didn't see the harm. I really didn't.
我不觉得 I didn't.
你觉得有问题吗 Do you ever?
好吧 我道歉 接下来呢 Fine, I apologize. What's next?
你真的觉得你能改变他的想法 对吗 You actually did think you could change his mind, didn't you?
天哪 当然了 Oh, my God. Of course.
-怎么了 -他怎么会不相信你呢 - What? - Why wouldn't he believe you?
你都施了咒了 You cast a spell.
你对你见过的每个人都施过咒 You have done it with everyone you've ever met.
毕竟长着一张这样的脸 With a face like that.
我有个帅气 有魅力的客户 I have a handsome, charismatic client.
能让人着迷 Capable of mesmerizing.
我们会赢的 We will win this.
我们会让陪审团看到 We will get the jury to see in you
你在自己身上看到的东西 what you see in you.
我在你身上看到的东西 What I see in you.
我表现如何 通过了吗 How'd I do? Did I pass?
勉强通过 Barely.
所以怎么着 海莉 我们就在这里过家家吗 So what's the deal? Are we just gonna play games, here, Haley,
你想到帮我辩护的法律策略了吗 or do you perhaps have a, a legal strategy for my defense?
我见了地方检察官 I met with the district attorney.
他们的证据很充分 They have a strong case.
犯罪现场有你的DNA The scene of the crime is essentially a shrine to your DNA.
即便如此 这依然是间接证据 That said, it's still circumstantial.
她没有说"冲动杀人" She didn't offer "heat of passion,"
但我觉得应该能争取一下 but I think I could get her there.
如果你想让我认罪 答案是不行 If you are talking about a plea, the answer is no.
能判成非预谋故意杀人罪已经算走运了 Voluntary manslaughter would be a steal.
那是对于凶手来说 Yes. For someone who did it.
要是判成一级或二级谋杀 We lose on murder one or two,
你可能就要在监狱里度过余生了 you could spend the rest of your life in jail.
我不认罪 明白吗 I'm not pleading guilty. Is that clear?
我是无辜的 I'm innocent.
不是我干的 I did not fucking do it.
非常感谢 Thank you very much.
-还有别的事吗 -没有了 谢谢 - Anything else? - No, that's great. Thank you.
谢谢 Thanks.
我们要做一个电视采访 We're gonna do a TV interview.
不管你喜不喜欢 Like it or not...
这个案子已经上电视了 所有人都能看到 this case is on trial right now on television, for everyone to see.
包括潜在的陪审团 Including the potential jury pool.
我们得跳进泳池 We need to jump into that pool.
你想让我上电视吗 You want me to-- go on TV?
我会陪着你的 With me at your side.
这可能是通往开放思维最直接的方式 让人们 It could be the straightest line to an open mind. Let people...
让人们看到你 听到你的声音 Let people see you. Hear you.
而不会被盘问 Without being subject to cross.
我从没想过完美的生活 I never aspired to a perfect life, you know.
我只想快乐一点 I just wanted to be happy.
我有个好家庭的概念 I had this idea of what a good family looked like,
这是你和妈妈交给我的 which I got from you and Mom.
-这就是我想要的 -格蕾丝 - That's really all I wanted. - Grace.
你妈妈和我并不幸福 Your mother and I were never happy.
什么 What?
我经常背着她偷腥 I was unfaithful to her. All the time.
-不 你没有 -这可能就是 - No, you weren't. - I think maybe that's what
我鄙视乔纳森的原因 informed my contempt for Jonathan.
他让我想起了自己 He reminded me of me.
我不是 I was not a...
"好丈夫" 格蕾丝 quote, unquote, "good husband," Grace.
你是啊 你就是 You were. You were!
你是好丈夫 爸 我记得 Uh, you were, Dad. I remember. You were...
你爱她 你对她很用心 You loved her. You, you were devoted to her.
你会给她写纸条 送她礼物 You would write her notes. You'd bring her gifts.
你会送她首饰 You'd shower her with, with, with, with jewelry, w--
你 你 You, you--
爸 你爱她 Dad, you loved her.
我看到了 我记得 我 I saw it. I remember. I--
嗯 Yeah.
是的 I did.
但我对她不忠 But I was unfaithful to her,
一次又一次 一次又一次 again and again and again and again.
不 No.
-每一次 -你 - And each time, - You--
我会意识到 I would come to the realization
这不是我想要的生活方式 that this was not the way I wanted to live my life,
然后我就回头了 and I would... come back to the fold.
决心重新开始 Determined to reset,
向你母亲坦白 I would confess to your mother.
道歉 Apologize.
送不同的首饰 她好像一件都没戴过 Different jewelry. I don't think she ever wore any of it.
她肯定觉得很恶心 I'm sure it was poison to her.
送礼物是为了赎罪 And the gifts were penance.
我的赎罪 My atonement.
虽然这话有点扎心 It's just... not what you needed to hear right now,
但你理想的婚姻 but the idea that your ideal of a marriage
是建立在我和你妈的基础上吗 was based on what your mother and I had?
你老是一厢情愿 格蕾丝 You've always had a way of chasing ghosts, Grace.
相信不应该相信的事 Of believing in things you shouldn't,
我很担心你会说服自己 and I, I am afraid that you are going to find a way
继续相信他 to believe in him again.
在你眼里 我有多软弱啊 Exactly how weak do you think I am?
好 三 二 一 提示康妮 Okay, in three, two, one. And cue Connie.
我们请到了乔纳森·弗雷泽医生 Joining us now is Dr. Jonathan Fraser,
还有他的律师 海莉·菲茨杰拉德 along with his attorney, Haley Fitzgerald.
-欢迎 谢谢你们接受采访 -谢谢你邀请我们 - Welcome. Thanks for being with us. - Thanks for having us.
这个采访有点不寻常 You know, this is a little unusual interview.
允许你的委托人上全国电视台 Allowing access to your client on national television.
老实说 他已经很扎眼了 Well, honestly, he's already been quite on display.
事实已经被扭曲了 所以我觉得 And the picture has been distorted. I thought,
应该让人们亲眼看看 let the people see for themselves.
你想让他们看到什么 What do you want them to see?
你问题的答案应该是真相 I suppose the answer to your question is... the truth.
也就是说我有缺陷 Which is to say that I'm flawed.
我不会把自己伪装成圣人 因为我不是 I do not pass myself off as... honorable, because I'm not.
我背叛了我爱的妻子 I was unfaithful to a wife who I love.
我伤害了她 我伤害了我儿子 I hurt her, I hurt my son.
这两件事都不可原谅 Both those things are unforgivable.
所以你承认你出轨了 You do admit that you're a cheater.
但你是杀人犯吗 是你杀了埃琳娜吗 But are you a killer? Did you kill Elena?
我是清白的 That I'm not guilty of.
我们来听听你的说法吧 Well, let's take your version of events.
你说你突然遇到她 You say you suddenly came upon her.
你发现她死了 但你为什么要跑呢 You discovered her dead. But why did you run?
因为我很震惊 Because I was in shock,
我是说医学意义上的 and I mean that in the, in the medical sense.
这是认知障碍 So, that's, that's a cognitive shut-down.
这是一种非常极端的恐慌 It's like a very extreme form of panic.
无辜的人不会逃跑 Innocent people do not flee.
我当时并不觉得自己是无辜的 Well, I, I didn't feel at all like an innocent man.
我背叛了妻子 I was guilty of infidelity,
而且我当时很笃定 and I felt pretty certain, that, uh...
说吧 Go ahead.
是我害死了她 That I was the cause of her death.
不是说她死在了我手上 Which is not to say that she died at my hands.
但我觉得有可能 有很大的可能 But I felt it was possible, probable even,
另一个人 出于嫉妒 愤怒 that someone else, in a fit of jealousy, or, or rage,
毕竟我 I had, uh...
跟她做爱了 made love to her.
有可能让凶手上头了 It could have possibly triggered the killer.
也许他看到了 Maybe he saw, uh...
众所周知 她是在我离开后不久被杀的 We, we know that she was killed, uh, shortly after I left.
但警方说证据 But the police say that the evidence points
很明确地指向你一个人 only and unequivocally to you.
所以我认为警方要收集 So I think that the police need to collect--
我能插句话吗 If I could jump in here.
-警察很优秀 -抱歉 是的 - The police do an excellent job. - Sorry. Yeah. Yeah.
但是人总是会犯错的 But sometimes they make human mistakes.
你觉得他们操之过急了吗 Well, you think they rushed here?
这是一起备受瞩目的凶杀案 This is a high-profile homicide.
死者是一位贵族学校的学生母亲 Which happened to a mother from a well-to-do school.
这种事按理说不应该发生的 These things are not supposed to happen.
既然发生了 公众就需要一个答案 And when they do, the public demands an answer.
并且希望同样的惨剧不会发生在他们身上 And assurance that the same horror couldn't possibly visit them.
警察感受到了这种压力 The police feel that pressure.
-压力 -是的 他们感到了压力 - The pressure? - Yes, they feel that pressure.
在选举年更是如此 And doubly so in an election year.
-应该是抓捕真凶的压力吧 -当然 - I would think pressure to get it right. - Absolutely.
但有时 他们也会被蒙蔽 But sometimes, they get blinded.
在此案中 就是唾手可得的嫌疑人 And in this case, by low-hanging fruit.
因为乔纳森当时在现场 Jonathan was there, around the time.
他留下了DNA He left his DNA.
但凶手不是你吗 And it wasn't you?
不是我 It wasn't me.
我有种感觉 You know, I get the feeling you're,
你想把自己塑造成受害者吗 you're trying to come off as some kind of victim?
我 Well, I...
传统意义上来说 我不是受害者 I'm not a victim in a, in a conventional sense, no.
这都是我自找的 And I, I brought a lot of this on myself.
但是 But, uh...
别忘了 Let's not forget that, uh...
抱歉 Sorry.
请继续 Go, go ahead.
说吧 别忘了什么 Go ahead. Let's not forget what?
乔纳森 Jonathan...
在这次事件中 That in all this...
我失去了我所爱之人 I lost someone I love.
还有 And, uh...
说白了 人们经常认为 Well, there you are. You know, people often think that, uh,
被当成嫌疑人就必须先发制人 being made a suspect must preempt,
或是抚平伤痛 or, or, or quash grief.
但我可以向你们保证 不是这样的 But I can assure you that that's not the case.
所以你还是坚持自己没有杀她吗 So you still say you didn't kill her?
我这么说 就是因为我没有杀她 Well, I say, I say that because I did not kill her.
你爱这个女人 你了解她 你了解她的生活 You loved this woman. You knew her. You knew her life.
你知道是谁干的吗 Do you have some idea, perhaps, who did?
嗯 我知道 I do. Yeah.
我认为我们会赢 I think we're gonna win.
是吗? Do you?
陪审团会研究你的迹象 The jurors will be studying you for signs.
如果你们两感觉不到 陪审团也不会 If you two don't feel it, neither will the jury.
你很投入吗 格蕾丝? Are you devoted, Grace?
那晚你为什么在她公寓外面? Why were you there that night, outside her apartment?
你为何这么问我? What are you asking me?